

lurring's already begun.
he Internet is the greatest meritocracy
in the history of mankind.
his may be the most frightening aspect
of all. For thousands of years, social order has been
maintained by government and religion playing off of
each other. Will new constructs for social
responsibility develop and evolve quickly enough to
beat back the chaotic nature of these kinds of
alliances?
eople will begin to see all are one and
one are all. It's a good thing.
he "blur of national
boundaries" will be replaced by "knowledge
clusters."
would add international cultural groupings -
"tribes," religious or other socio-political
affinity groups.
gree completely. Geography will become
meaningless.
agree provisionally; global communication could be
seriously hindered by the intervention of private
telecommunications companies and content
cartels.
his is not an individual player economy
- far from it - and too far to make it happen by 2020.
We are pack driven organisms - and while there may be
some re-ordering of packs the overall default of
governments will continue.
nternet helps globalization and
associated corporate interests, but human cultures are
persistent and resilient - the idea they will all be
wiped out is wrong thinking.
his is probably an overly
"Pollyannaish" view of the power of
technology.
bsolutely. This will be taken for
granted by 2020, and it'll be hard to remember a
time when the world did not operate this way.
r, worse, the traditional societies that
show no signs of releasing their members from their
sticky structures will co-opt the free flow of
information to their own uses. We have seen it already.
Technology is neutral. People make the decisions about
how to use it - and it often isn't pretty (e.g.,
cell phones setting off bombs).
his will continue to be one of the most
dramatic effects of the internet on our lives.
s
long as the information flow remains free and
uncontrolled, yes, this trend will occur.
ation-states will continue to weaken as
mega-corporations become more and more powerful, but
they won't disappear. Geography will still matter,
but matter less.
his is a growing concern because
governments will have to collaborate to
'control' the interests of their corporations
and allow fair competition.
ationalism is something that, no matter
how evil, will never die.
orldwide competition will continue to
grow but will be complicated by diplomatic barriers
between nations. This will only be true if diplomacy,
not war, takes center stage.
ational boundaries are getting stronger,
not weaker.
e
have only scratched the surface with this technology,
the future flow of information will only be restricted
by the methods/hardware we receive it
ove Tom, but he is so idealistic in that
book it is absolutely painful! That's not to say he
is wrong - he's just talking about the horizon as
if it were here. He's looking at a distant oasis
and acting like we can all start drinking the fresh
water if we just believe and get down on our knees. in
my opinion, his lake is out there - but the one
he's describing may be only a mirage. There's
going to be a lot of painful times in the near future -
while blue collar workers and industrial age tradesfolk
are simply put out to pasture. It's like the
hackneyed example of the craftsmen of buggy whips in
the town where they build a factory for horseless
carriages … all the buggy whip craftsmen can
read Tom's book, and many will learn to craft
steering wheels instead … but many will simply
go out of business and starve to death.
totally agree. The internet will allow
thinkers and creative people to participate and compete
in a way that people in remote areas of the globe
couldn't do before. It's easier than many think
- I work in a home office that's 200 miles away
from my "real office" and co-workers.
I've done it for five years, and it works amazingly
well. The internet has allowed me to be productive at
my job without physically being there.
t's easier and cheaper to start a
company today than it was ten years ago by orders of
magnitude. This trend will spread around the world as
bandwidth and clock cycles become more
affordable.
think this will happen, but not by 2020... maybe
2030.
he nation-state as we know today will be
eliminated. However, the free flow of information will
not be able to overcome cultural/religious issues.
Nations will be based on those factors. Successful
"nations" will embrace the new technology and
thrive as part of an interconnected global
network.
lurring of boundaries is occurring
already for Internet-intensive users. If you look at
this group only, your 2020 vision is here
already.
homas Friedman's head is flat.
That's about the only thing the book proves.
agree with the first part of the statement but NOT the
second. Nation-states will adapt to flat-world
capitalism. The relationship between power and money is
quite enduring
rue, but the risk is that the gap
between what Richard Florida calls the one-third of the
pop. who are part of the creative class and the
under-skilled, undereducated rest will open even
wider.
hat might work if we were all the same
race, religion, socio-economic level.
agree with this prediction but with the exception of
Individuals empowered to compete globally. Perhaps at
first this will be the case but power will be held by
affiliation as described above.
his is the best part of the
Internet.
ven on a small scale, we're already
seeing a tremendous increase in collaboration on a
smaller scale (individual and small group
level).
uch as I'd like it to be so, I think
that nationalism will survive and even thrive. The
internet will be as powerful a tool locally as it is
globally. A more powerful force will also emphasize
separation: religion. The internet is increasing, not
blending religious separatism, and I fear that, too,
will only increase in the next 15 years.
do not believe that corporation-based cultural
groupings will become more geographically diverse. They
will be part of the controlling interests on this
revolution.
ulture will continue to rule... there
may be global networks, but we can't get rid of the
subjectivity in people regardless of their time
zone
eadily available internet access
isn't the only answer - fresh water, health care,
food, and shelter are still going to be hindrances -
the digital divide will be even greater.
his comes at a cost – again, I am
very concerned about who has access and who has the
opportunity to participate.
deally, I would hope that this would
happen. However, religious and political strife will
segment the internet and further divide the human
population. The traitorous actions by some companies in
relation to kowtowing to Chinese limitations is point
in fact.
ational cultures will continue to be
quite dominant, even when the boundaries have
apparently disappeared.
nly starting to appear by 2020, though.
We can all happily adopt multiple individual roles
(which may sometimes appear to be in conflict) - this
may result in multiple online identities for any one
individual. Would then expect to see some confusion as
to which of these emerge as the dominant grouping(s).
So people will identify less with being
"American" or "Chinese" - but
whether they become predominantly a "football
fan" or a "New Yorker" is open to
doubt.
agree, but I also say, "Good luck
with that." Most of us are not intelligent enough
to fully take advantage of anything that the Internet
has to offer.
his is very dependent on whether English
is the one globally chosen language.
oundaries are falling; but the danger is
that new ones will arise - we have a knack for finding
ways of walling out and walling in, no matter how we
slice of the real and virtual geographies we
inhabit.
t's enough to say that the free flow
will blur current national boundaries. What do you gain
by adding "completely blur?" Does that mean
obliterate? If so, I don't agree. Blur is the right
word.
ational boundaries will increasingly be
seen as trivial compared to corporate allegiances that
transcend borders, but am not so sure that individuals
will be so empowered.
o
the world is not flat. The world is shrinking some
places or some leveraging functions. But this is not
uniform. That is why some take advantage of it and some
don't.
es, on the condition that the internet
remains free. We've seen what happens in the
television and radio industry, the telecommunications
industry, and elsewhere when monopolies are allowed to
form and block out competition.
ation states and confederations (EU,
ASEAN) will continue exercising power.
es, there will probably be some blurring
of national boundaries, just like corporations seem to
expand across nations. But so far corporations do not
control weapons of mass destruction. If they do, then
the end of nations is near.
he current static boundaries that define
states, companies, and organizations will become much
more fluid and adaptable to whatever is needed and will
be able to pull in whoever is needed.
s
long as there is real estate, our physical national
boundaries will be powerful.
will take more than this to erase the
cultural differences that fuel the fires of distrust
and their related fire accelerants.
e
will see this occurring, but not in such stark
terms.
just don't think we can/will move so
quickly to change longstanding structures in which
powerful people and cultures are invested. There is no
doubt, though, that other cultural groupings and other
organizations will be reconfigured by then as more and
more individuals work together (and play together)
globally.
here will be human organizations tied by
global networks, a la al Qaeda, a la the eBay
marketplace - and they will rise in number and impact -
but national boundaries will still exist.
ould happen, but again, one word:
CHINA.
n
2010, as today, there will continue to be cities and
countries that are more attractive to live, due to
their jobs, their culture, their attractions, their
concentrations of people, their infrastructure, their
sense of humour. Currently it's more expensive to
live, and on average there's lower dispensable
income from living in the most popular places. No
network will be able to replicate being in the same
room as another individual.
overnments will balkanize the internet
and prevent this from happening.
ot quite completely.
lobalization is a mixed blessing.
usiness is based on trust, which is
founded on relationships, based on culture. The
internet is blind and mistrusted. Am I going to
collaborate with a screen-name?
ncreased transparency eliminates
boundaries. People who add no value or try to erect
barriers will get voted off the island quickly. Groups
will form and disburse as needed, whether short or long
term.
ut this will not happen in the US,
because the Internet in the US will be a dumbed-down,
slow-poke, wall garden that will only partially and
unreliably connect to the rest of the world.
ation-states can still exist, and
national groups can still identify as such, even as
technology and various institutions allow greater
transnational connection and identification.
ate to argue with O'Brien, but I
still think politics and culture will get in the way of
the free flow of information and total
collaboration.
he economic reality of the "global
village" will not be leveled in 15 years to allow
ALL inhabitants of Earth to interact in the manner
stated.
he notion that the power of
nation-states as currently configured will dissipate
radically in 14 years simply due to global information
flows is naive.
think that global collaboration is
rapidly happening. Political ramifications and
international laws will slow this so that it will not
be completed by 2020.
he world in 2020 will be a very
different place--one that we are unable to envision at
this time. But very unlike what we know today.
agree except for the
"city-state" potential. Although I believe
those knowledge collaborations will exist, certainly
federal governments (and their tax interests) will
preclude full realization of a boundary-less virtual
environment.
agree that because of the internet's
ability to link disparate groups worldwide so that
entities can pool resources, it seems likely that
corporations will increasingly govern international
politics.
n
the contrary, although on one level there will be
globalization, on another we are seeing clear
acceleration of nationalism, ethnic centricity, and the
collision of cultures. See Samuel Huntington.
homas Friedman is a one-man cliché
machine. I sure don't see complete blurring of
national boundaries in 14 years, unless the Muslims get
their international caliphate or the Communists try
again and finally succeed in ruining everything. In
either case, there won't be worldwide access to
success...just worldwide misery.
ery true. The first part, that is. Rest
is piffle.
t's not just the internet that
enables this success, government policy also dictates
whether or not it succeeds
h. Disintermediation 2006. The old, new
thing. I think we call this eBay today.
his must be the position version of the
prediction that the world will be undermined by loosely
affiliated terrorist groups that communicate via the
internet. I think that what Friedman says may be true
in the sense that individuals may create entities that
thrive in the short term. But without being trained as
an economist my experience in watching high tech
companies is that there is intense value created in the
short term and then in most cases the smaller entity is
purchased or absorbed by a larger incumbent. Hmm. So
maybe larger corporations will become larger but I have
no idea what Friedman means by "corporation-based
cultural groupings" and I expect he has a more
benevolent view of corporations than I do. Maybe I
should read his book.
o, national boundaries will always carry
great political and social history and stigma. I do
believe that more global networks will collaborate on
similar problems and issues.
ooking at current global politics, this
will hardly occur. National boundaries may be blurred,
but ones based on religion and cultural differences are
being erected at great speed. The case will look
different to business people than the most of us. I
suspect there will be increasing desire among some not
to network with North America & Europe.
hope so!
gree with the concept - but disagree
with the timeframe. I believe it will take longer -
adoption cycles are not as fast as some would
like.
aybe, but by 2050.
here is a need to adapt in order to be
effective and successful.
t
is in the interest of many industries reliant on the
military that national borders and differences
remain.
e'll be on our way to that by 2020,
but that's only 14 years away. The UE is still
having problems, so certainly all government will not
collapse in 14 years.
expect the internet will afford the development of
social networks (of individuals and/or other
collectivities) that will not be isomorphic with
current national boundaries, but I do not expect the
latter to be displaced or replaced.
his is already happening in the form of
open source, etc.
think people will be tied together, but
I think states will become more reactionary and more
insistent on national boundaries as they find their
importance waning.
ommunication processes and resulting
contacts have changed as a result of the internet. But
whether this will equal a totally "free flow of
information" remains a political, economic, and
social issue. For instance, Google's sell-out to
Chinese authoritarianism, paid rankings on search
engine results, etc.
he ends of WWI and WWI were supposed to
lead to a new thinking with regards to nationalism. As
we have seen, nationalism will not die. However, we are
seeing increasing globalization. Communicating and
associating with different people is not the same thing
as identifying with them.
his statement does not take into account
that there is still a socio-economic background to the
processes taken place on and around the
Internet.
his is unrealistically utopian. The
'"global village" assumes that economics
and politics will cease to influence communications. I
disagree.
eligions, nationalism, criminal
impulses, etc., are stronger than the internet and will
screw up the technological paradise envisioned by so
many
ccess only to some, not all. Digital
inequality threatens to increase existing social
inequalities.
his scenario is less likely than
interplanetary trade.
find this scenario plausible, and
Friedman has been eloquent about its benefits, but
I'm leary of the categorical modifier
"completely." I'm not willing to go that
far.
ationalism will be weakened but it
won't disappear.
ot "complete" blurring –
I think there may be some blurring.
he Internet is a major flattener. When
someone selling crap on eBay can make a living from
home that just shows what is possible. Imagine all of
the Internet entrepreneurs that will flow out of China
and India. It's incredible.
he move to global networking will be (is
being) paralleled by the rise, not of national
boundaries, but of local identity. So there will at
once be both a more complete global and local
consciousness, which are not always working in the same
direction.
do not think that national boundaries will be blurred.
Otherwise I agree.
nternet opens worldwide access to
success and increases global collaboration, yes.
Completely blur of current national boundaries, no. The
nation-state still has staying power, at least within
the timeframe of these predictions.
he entrepreneur can make money currently
on the Internet. With the growth of this medium, I can
only predict that the possibility for enterprising
individuals to succeed will also grow -
exponentially.
he nation state is already losing
importance. However, the internet does not open access
to success for everyone. Being a part of the new
city-states, corporation-based cultural groupings etc.
is a crucial factor in gaining access to
technologically facilitated success.
he elimination of national boundaries is
a utopian fantasy long distant to our own times. While
I agree technology allows people to create and be part
of their own virtual communities, I do not see those
groups supplanting the modern nation state (and I could
well see a backlash against such groups, depending on
the nation involved).
e
can already see this trend in the academic world, to
say nothing of the various online communities that
share common interests that transcend national and
cultural boundaries. However, the power of the internet
is that it acts as a medium to draw together peoples of
a diaspora. We can see that in the UK, where immigrant
communities, refugees, asylum-seekers and others use
the internet to maintain their cultural roots and
identities.
agree with this scenario up to the point
of "completely blur" national boundaries. I
don't this will happen but the trend is moving
global.
ot completely. Humans aren't that
good nor that comfortable with absolutes.
he result is complex and not really
"flat" but "bend."
his is the kind of provocatively
sounding speculation that sells books, but is grossly
oversimplified. So long as the government collects the
taxes, commands the military, controls the borders
(physical and virtual), upholds the law, incarcerates
those who violate the law, protects the rich and
placates the poor...then the nation-states will be
around a good many years beyond 2020 and China will
still tell Google what it can or cannot do.
his (like most of the predictions) will
be true only in a weak form. Certainly there will be a
globalisation effect breaking down barriers. But this
exists within a pre-existing world order that is
nothing to do with technology.
gree, with the caveat that open
connectivity will be challenged by governments (such as
China) and by large business organizations with
political clout. Until a paradigm shift occurs
concerning the way that information flow is treated,
these major entities will present major barriers to
internet openness.
ourteen years from now may seem like a
long time, but this statement seems a bit far-fetched
to suggest that national boundaries will be blurred
because of the power of the Internet. There's still
way too much nationalism and national pride in much of
the world to ever suggest that boundaries will
disappear. The idea of corporation-based cultural
groupings is also interesting, but the idea of
individuals collaborating and competing globally would
seem to erode at this idea. Doesn't the idea of
using technology to make the world flatter suggest that
you wouldn't need a corporation to achieve your
goals? If anything, individual power will increase -
more and more people will utilize technologies to
create their own businesses and compete with these
larger corporations who are slower to react. The future
will be lots and lots of small businesses (who can all
act global) - all that needs to happen is people who
are unafraid to try it.
es, but not to that extreme; the
nation-state will still be alive and well for a long
time to come.
artly agree - although I suspect the
timescale will be longer.
gree about global access and
interactions and blurring of certain national
distinctions. Disagree that political entities would
disappear.
ational boundaries will still be with us
in 2020. It takes a lot more than simply allowing good
communications across boundaries to eliminate
borders!
e
are more likely to see Castells' scenario of
networked states.
n
my optimistic days, I can imagine this. I worry,
however, that power and politics will trump. I'll
go with the optimistic - cautiously.
his blurring of national boundaries may
happen in Europe, but not in most of the rest of the
world for quite some time.
agree it will happen, although I
question if this will happen already by 2020. Maybe
it's a bit later. But we will definitely see some
very good examples of this.
ational boundaries will NOT be replaced
- but they will be blurred much like we see in the
European Union. Information does not trump common
ethnicity, heritage, language and history.
Unfortunately, global corporations will be more
powerful than ever (though not as depicted in the
original 1970s film "Rollerball") to the
detriment of workers worldwide. Nations will find
themselves increasingly unable to limit the power of
corporations.
ccess will indeed be greater, but
countries will still exist. A given individual will
have many social and professional affinities, which
will be constituted, dissolved, or maintained as
circumstances require/facilitate.
he world is not flat and will never be.
The world is spikey. There is so much evidence of that.
Wealth, power, internet access, resources, etc are
concentrated. The 80-20 principle applies. Individuals
can compete globally only if they are trained at the
leading global institutions and then live in the
leading global cities. I just returned from an Indian
city of 500,000 and internet access is difficult and
there are few opportunities to get the people who can
help run a globally competitive corporation. I need to
go to a big city.
ot disagreeing that the Internet will
blur the lines and shrink the world, but can not see
virtual communities replacing existing real world
communities.
his success will only be for the already
technology/information rich. Digital inequality will
grow.
e
should encourage diversity rather than homogeneity. We
don't want a MacDonald's world!
ust because it is possible does not mean
it will happen. Just being able to access unknown
people over the Internet does not mean that I want to
do it.
he year 2020 maybe an early target but I
believe the Internet will continue to reshape the
structure of social organizations and
interaction
here will be a free flow of information,
yes, but free information? The problem is not the flow
but the content.
agree on this point but people in
developing countries have little scope of access to
internet. Their case must be considered first.
his is so true and will happen so
thoroughly that this is why it will be beyond 2015 that
we can measure if the benefit will outweigh the
costs.
agree that the effect will happen but
the national boundaries will remain as there are more
factors that fall outside the global collaboration
impact which will maintain the boundaries.
generally agree with this statement but
the identity of 'Nations' will continue
forward.
y
2020 the sense of global community will be considerably
stronger, but the concept of sovereignty will not have
been completely transcended.
he presence of taxation, armies,
religious and cultural differences, and natural
limitations on the movement of peoples will mean that
we will continue to have countries, and the imposition
of their laws and restrictions will continue. The
balance of the two trends will be an evolving
dynamic.
suspect there is much truth to this
thesis - as there is to much of what Friedman writes in
this book. But I would argue there are just too many
variables related to individual's identification
with today's institutions to suggest that we will
replace national identification at some other level. I
do think people will, to a large degree, be much more
open to differences between individuals and cultures. I
think this is enormously healthy for individuals, for
the world as a whole (and for all the institutions in
between (I don't see this is a threat to
nation-states))
s
a trend, this may turn out to be true, but I certainly
don't think national boundaries will be
"completely blurred" in the next 14
years.
apitalism fosters the state form and
vice versa. State-shaped power structures are needed to
guarantee private property and to ensure the security
of individuals. Rather the opposite; I expect a
strengthening of the concept of the state, once the
state has moved from being paper-based to being
code-based. Code will become territory, users citizens
and transmissions transactions with geolocally
identifiable points of origin and termination and
accountability of persons. However there will be a
trend of centralization of power structures around
cities/places where data converges and is
minded.
nice utopian view - sounds good across the developed
countries where all can compete equally. Sounds less
good for developing countries/individuals competing in
developing countries. This question should have the
danger flag on it!
o
long as nationalism remains a strong, powerful and
vital social and cultural (and in many cases political)
force, as I think it will for a long time to come, this
is highly unlikely.
totally agree. In my mind countries will
support the companies no matter where they come from.
The internet already allows to launch a website and
offer the service on a global scale. Paying a service
is still an issue but I see that diminishing in the
future. Findability on the internet is a greater issue,
there might be 'regional' markets that allow
vendors to offer their services.
partially agree with this statement. I do believe that
the global networks will become more prevalent as more
countries become high stakes players in the world
economy, however I do not believe that national
boundaries will be replaced. In my view, people will
actually feel a bit threatened by globalization and so
will react with a heightened patriotism.
he lines started blurring when companies
and people could talk across borders and time zones.
The internet may have accelerated this process but the
blurring of lines has been well underway for some
time.
ne interesting way to look at this is to
look at its other side. Friedman's story is
essential one of homogenizing results and the cost of
that homogeny. So worldwide access to success, for me,
reminds me of the axiom: which is better in a crisis -
a friend or a neighbor. When we remove geography and
proximity from our lives, we make it much easier to
ignore and pass over the basics. So if a distant
colleague fails - for whatever reason - how can we
care? How can we help? Sure, we can judge and complain
about unfinished tasks that make our jobs harder, but
how can we physically express the caring and nurturing
aspects of our relationship with our distant colleague?
We can't. We can only leverage distant colleagues
for our advantage and be forced to ignore the
disadvantages. Something about this concept seems
unbalanced to me.
ational boundaries are already skewed as
we see from our competitiveness problem including what
is a US company - they are now global.
his one (just like Friedman's book)
gushes too much. Yes, there already are and will be
positive effects. But world hunger won't be solved,
and world peace is not around the corner yet.
et real. All this by 2020?
Multi-national corporations, irrespective of the
Internet, are doing more to obliterate national
boundaries and they are still a long way from having
this kind of affect on the world.
uch of this will happen but
"completely blur" is far too dramatic a
statement. Anybody who agrees with this one probably
didn't read it!
ore international cooperation, yes.
Blurring of some boundaries, yes. City-states, etc.,
no.
his is already happening.
nternet business will increasingly
become one-to-one as systems are developed to allow me
to sell something to another, anywhere in the
world.
his statement is totally blind of the
fact that there is such a thing as a relevant habitus
in which one grows up. Cultural differences do not die
away and internet will not be The melting pot.
Imperialism of capital and instrumental mind will
remain blind to some crucial questions of human
existence. Violent religious fundamentalism (in USA)
thrives on this kind of blindness.
gree for the most part; however, there
will continue to be some small countries that will
attempt to dictate what their population can watch,
read and access.
agree with the first part of the statement, but not on
the second.
overnments will find ways of keeping
their people within their boundaries.
he internet allows faster information
flow. Only the rich and developed countries would be
benefited. For those undeveloped/developing countries,
they can't get good benefits from the Internet as
their connectivity and availability is low.
riedman is right that the world is flat
and will empower everyone and everything will change.
But it will never blur current national
boundaries.
es, although the "flat" is
actually a landscape with potholes - some cultures and
geographical areas (consumed by war or disease) will
just not be able to catch up to the others.
put disagree because no way will "free flow of
information blur current national boundaries" -
but the many organizations and global networks will
move in this direction - Agree with a lot of
Friedman's thoughts - direction except for end of
nationalism is largely correct. Corporations may hope
that nations go away - they might get even stronger in
response to the "blurring" - believe what
Michael Schrage says - unless people get in a try to
control us - UGH! - we will pretty much have cyberspace
that mirrors reality with the good, bad - wonderful and
ugly … that's the way media has always
worked - but then people have always tried to control
it and others work on governance in response.
a, ha, ha. Probably a lot of this is
true except for the "success" part. I will be
earning an Indian programmer's salary in Chicago,
trying to pay my property tax and cursing the market
crash that wiped out my "social security",
and realizing that I won't be able to retire until
I am 85. The good news I can spend my off hours in
virtual reality! It will be too dangerous to go outside
anyway without my sunblock 1000 and oxygen tank.
stablished interests still normalise the
internet – nations-states are polities of
stability. When do these alleged revolutions ever
happen? It is right that things will be different - and
problematic in ways - but this is 1980s
techno-futurism...
ontrary to the techno utopians,
governmental boundaries have not faded away. There will
be, to be sure, reconfigurations, but the nation-state
will not disappear. There may, however, be EU type
regional groupings; however, these have not eliminated
sub-regional national identity.
ith high-speed internet access and some
ideas, we'll be competing head to head with
everyone.
orget 2020, it's happening
now.
his isn't the way people seem to
have worked in the past... It is unlikely that they
will do it in the short-term future.
he world has seen sectarian fighting and
battles for centuries. The Internet will not change
this, especially since I don't believe that it will
be as widespread and readily available to the masses as
was predicted in an earlier survey. Attacks on US soil,
something that was fairly unthinkable to US citizens
only began to occur with dramatic results in the last
10 years. If this prediction were true, these attacks
would never have occurred.
wish you were right. Governments - "nation
states" are engaged in fighting back, and BACK,
and BACK.... Not all - and certainly not in a country
near you/or me, but in some countries. Corporations
have suffered from the ENRON/MCI mega fraud situations,
which while they may not resonate to you, resonate in
capitols around the world.... they wonder still at the
corruption in corporate America (I note it was a very
SHORT list), even as corruption in governments are the
theme of some countries. To advance the benefits of
end-to-end Internet, based on bringing all countries
into electronic commerce, we still need to address
underlying communications technologies in many
countries. In the book, the idea that the Internet
spontaneously combusts and just HAPPENS, thus everyone
can benefit from the "online world
revolution" doesn't address how to connect the
rest of the "world," the rest of the
users.
h, Internet! How glorious you have been
to we human beings. Without the surge of Internet, some
anachronistic states, such as Russia and China would
not be able to realize political, economic, and
industrial changes, as they are doing today. Even
remote communities, such as those living along the
Amazon River, are seeing some progress and waking up to
the reality because of the Internet. This global
network has revolutionized everything, therefore I can
predict that the world will be more unified than ever,
as it is happening in Europe right now. The concepts of
national borders will be deeply altered.
his is no more different than a
description one could apply to today's world. The
idea that people will stop fighting over land
territorial space in exchange for pure territory of
power networks is a fantasy. People will still compete
for geographic space because at its foundation, land is
a material resource that no one can live without.
Specific land areas with unique material resources and
strategic locations will always be at a premium.
Certain values established by the power brokers who
manage such real estate, as well as values brought by
people attracted to such situations, will always to
some degree influence the local culture.
he European Union is trying to make this
happen and is having some success. There is and will
continue to be some tension from other major power
brokers, who may not permit individuals to do this. The
pressure will be there from people, but the governments
may not be responsive to that pressure.
es, for those who embrace the
technology. There will be a dear division between the
haves and the have-nots.
ut, the individuals who succeed will
become rich, while others will remain poor in spite of
the open worldwide access.
his is already happening; but note that
there are powerful forces in opposition. it won't
happen consistently or universally.
hile I agree with Tom's
observations, I think it is going too far to conclude
that national boundaries will be completely
blurred.
hile I believe some aspects of this are
true, it's also a very old phenomenon. Fox's
"History in Geographic Perspective" describes
how critical communication media (in the form of
shipping) created communities by interconnection that
competed with communities united by nation
building.
gree in part though this phenomenon is
not exclusively based upon Internet technologies but
far more upon concentration of economic power and the
destruction of the State as the protector of common
good by policies driven by neo-liberal ideology
"ompletely" is too strong a word for
this. The blurring is already happening, especially
with regard to taxation. The significant change would
be extension of the blur into physical domains,
ultimately to military power.
he world is not flat, nor does it change
that quickly. You need to get out of Harvard Square
more often.
he world is on a globalization trend not
a city-state trend; information is on a stifling trend
(via copyrights and software patents), and national
boundaries are shoring up against the information flow
(e.g. to Muslim women). However, what little
information is permitted in the public part of the
internet does indeed contribute towards success.
don't believe that current national boundaries will
be "completely blurred" because people appear
to be "hardwired" through evolution to be
attuned to geography and a geographic sense of home. I
didn't understand this when I was younger, but I
see and understand it more as I gain age and
perspective.
agree with the concept; I think that 2020 is too soon.
This is primarily because of obstacles provided by
certain governments and institutions, corporations,
etc. There are artificially imposed limitations on
informational and technical transfer, on technologies
perceived to be threatening to established entities and
on content. (Examples being File sharing, US encryption
export restriction laws, religious or sexual content
restrictions in various regions). Already the sense of
"community" has expanded to include
like-minded individuals aggregated online as well as
geographically close groups. he trend
is there. See SourceForge for a very dynamic and
productive example.
lthough individuals will be able to
collaborate and compete globally they will still have
national boundaries and pay taxes where they live. The
internet will simply create a virtual geography
extending the loyalty of those involved.
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