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are just not all on the same level and there is still a
significant technology divide. People tend to lash out at
what they don't understand.
owever, just like the Amish, they will
become hopelessly left behind and will become
meaningless in an advancing technological world.
hey exist today. There are many examples
in history of people sabotaging advancing
societies...
f
course. I hope there are refuseniks. We need cultural
diversity and a technology monoculture is dangerous and
stultifying.
he question is whether it will be just
little sparks on the fringe or a full-fledged movement.
For it to become a movement, they'll need to put to
use the technology they abhor.
here will eventually be radical, and
probably religious-based, terrorists groups that fight
technology.
think this statement misses part, however. There will
also be positive influences of these groups who choose
other methods than terrorism to add something to the
world.
hat's what Idaho and Wyoming are
for.
do not expect a significant amount of anti-technology
terror. I would expect a greater degree of simple
refusal to become assimilated.
his phenomenon is already developing and
taking shape. Something to be prepared for, no
doubt.
he terrorism will be within the grid by
rival groups.
uddite/refusnik/terrorist activities
have declined since the ARPAnet came on line.
see this as an increasing threat over
time.
'm starting to feel a little Luddite
myself.
ome will live off the grid because of
"always on burnout."
"o-tracers" will become more
prevalent (and noticeable) as technology becomes more
pervasive. However, violence against technology will be
indirect and cloaked in other agendas, such as
religious, nationalistic or ethical.
hey are evident in every society,
history proves that we will have people who will attack
what they perceive as the only thing that excludes them
from being part of society.
don't see the terrorism side, although I do believe
more people will move off the grid just to slow down
their own lives.
he internet allows like minded people to
find each other, for good and bad.
errorists commit their acts of violence
for many reasons - it is reasonable to expect some
terrorist personalities will seize upon technology as a
protest topic
ome of the technology-oriented will also
commit terror acts and these may well affect more
people faster.
ducation, ideology, etc will drive it
more than those who refuse technology.
t
least in America there have always been
"refuseniks." If technology makes personal
lives more transparent and civil liberties and personal
freedoms are lost, this group will grow in numbers and
activity. Any group is capable of terror and violence
to make its point, but I do not think this group has a
higher propensity for violent behavior
t
is up to us to ensure this change. If we start an open
discussion with each other, people understand the
way.
e
already see this, especially with religious
fundamentalism. It is certain to increase through 2020.
The real danger is the increased lethality of new
technology (especially bio-weapons) accessible to such
Luddites
hat do you mean by "some?" A
few 100 loners in Idaho, or entire populations?
don't know that technology incites so much fervor
as to make people violent. This is kind of like deaf
people being their own culture. I can't imagine it
will catch on in any meaningful way.
nti-technologists are not terrorists -
plenty of religious fanatics, however, will occupy that
ground.
uddites will just refuse technology.
That is not to say they will attack it - largely as
they may lack the knowledge to do so.
hose unable or unwilling to accept
wide-open communication and cooperation will always
seek ways to destroy those tools which challenge their
opinion
sually an effective act of terror
requires the use of technology, so if these folks are
willing to be ironic, I suppose terror acts will occur.
Otherwise I think they will be like the Amish, content
and left alone.
eeking peace with technology is just as
valid as being a hermit, although it is not a way to be
a productive member of society, even though some
cultures value monastic and hermit life.
erhaps there will be isolated attempts
at violently resisting an IT enveloped world but these
groups will lack the resources and backing to resist
for any length of time. They will be killed or
jailed.
hilst I agree that many will choose an
information-free lifestyle, unless a popular religion
rises up opposing technology, I doubt we will ever see
terror or violence in protest against it.
he people "left behind''
(by technology) will just make up the poor class that
hopefully will encourage their kids to get plugged
in.
hey're already doing so. (Many
answered this way.)
lready the neoluddites make their
rejections of technology apparent, whether it's
unabombers or smashing computers on stage at town hall.
But most people will ignore this lunatic fringe.
hould this "brave new world"
come to pass, I would imagine lucrative illegal
enterprises that erase people from the grid. Dropping
out is getting more difficult with each year that
passes. Again, "society" abhors those beyond
its control. As cash transactions become more and more
exceptional, even unacceptable in some circumstances,
it will be increasingly difficult to be a
"mole". Full autonomy will be impossible
without physically leaving normal society and
constructing enclaves. It would behoove society to
quietly allow this.
here will always be generational
differences but the benefits of technology will be
practically universal and the reaches of
technology-based systems unavoidable.
agree that this will probably happen, although it
hadn't occurred to me until I read this
prediction.
hile refuseniks will be part of the
future, they will shy away from violence since most
modern forms of violence will be
technology-intensive.
eligious extremists who believe in the
"End Times" will increasingly view technology
enhancements like bio-chips and national/universal IDs
as signs. Some will help their ideology along by
committing unrest.
here are the Luddites? The only person
in recent memory who can rightfully claim the label of
being a Luddite is the Unabomber. Will another one like
him come along? Probably. But short of some
catastrophe, a mass revolt or significant portion of
the population retreating from technology is
unlikely.
ew people would be able to access info
on enough systems to wreak havoc with them. I do think
some people will live off the grid, because of a
suspicion about what they don't know about
happening with their information behind the scenes.
It's a valid fear, but not everyone is willing to
make the convenience tradeoff for security or privacy
though.
he same people who hate "big
government" will find the new intrusiveness too
confining.
here will always be antagonists. There
will always be nuts out there who think violence is the
best tool for getting the attention of society to hear
their viewpoints. Sad but true.
n
the future the only way to bring the technology down
will be to know it very well. It would be difficult for
Luddite to know where the "target"
was.
ho will be the Edward Abbey of the
networked world village? I'm sure she/he is out
there.
ff-the-gridders threaten no one:
they're sustainable, in balance. Hackers, on a
global scale, will bring the grid to its knees because
it's in their nature to fiddle, not always in a
Firefox/Unix/Mozilla benign mode.
eah, but this won't be a huge
problem. We've already got groups like this, from
the benign Amish to the
"eco-terrorists."
hat seems unlikely is that the
"technology refuseniks" will be a cultural
group in any sense. They will be members of many groups
but I do not see that their resistance to one
technology or another is sufficient to identify them as
a group.
don't think one big massive group of Luddites will
form. I would not be surprised, however, if small
groups dissatisfied with technology and modern culture
decide to wreak havoc because they are disconnected
from the rest of the world.
agree with statement that "the people left behind
(many by their own choice) by accelerating information
and communications technologies will form a new
cultural group of technology refuseniks who
self-segregate from "modern" society."
The terrorist prediction maybe exaggerated.
agree that some will opt to live off the grid, but
these wont all be "bad" people. There will
also be many political dissidents and human rights
activists who will be forced off the grid in order to
survive.
o
some extent but there will not be a major problem or a
major acceleration.
ven today there are many individuals who
refuse to have anything to do with "that
technology" and are either frightened or resentful
of it. There will always be individuals who refuse to
accept that changes that are taking place in their
society and while most will simply make the effort to
"drop out" of that society, others will
attempt protests of varying degrees of violence.
his question is not as interesting as
the presupposed scenario it implies. It reeks of Cold
War hysteria. Was it L. Ron Hubbard or J. Edgar Hoover
who formulated this one? What is more likely to happen
is that the pace of innovation will start to slow and
then plateau at a certain level instead of spiking off
the chart into chaos as this question implies.
Moreover, if history is any guide, the have-nots will
be fooled into wanting to be like the haves, rather
than trying to destroy what the haves possess.
on't know if acts of terror will be
protests against technology. Moreso the way that
governments and business employ technology.
he Unabomber was only the
beginning.
owever, I think the threat of terror or
violence motivated by this specifically is low. I do
agree some will choose to live "off the
grid"
omeone has been reading Gibson's
"Bridge" trilogy here!
his is happening in many developing
countries.
hese will be some of the same people
also involved in ELF/ALF.
think this will come, but not primarily
from Luddites who self-segregate. The info technology
will be an obvious target for anyone looking to disrupt
the evolving status quo.
ome will (and do) live off the grid -
e.g., Mennonites, but I don't think that they
refuseniks will act in large numbers to destroy
information technologies. Repressive governments will
simply block information using technology, as recently
demonstrated by China's actions.
agree that some people will withdraw from or limit
their participation in the world/society facilitated by
information and communications technologies, but I
don't expect them to commit acts of terror or
violence in protest against these technologies.
his is already happening and will no
doubt continue. How big a problem it becomes is harder
to predict.
his is an overblown issue that is used
to legitimize out-of-control security agencies in need
of threats.
ome people will refuse to use new media.
Violence is not in the cards.
nd they may be right! Or, at least, they
may keep us honest. Most people agree that the
Industrial Revolution was a good idea, but we sure do
have eco-terrorists who fight against its
ramifications
hey will be regarded like the Amish
… it is a lifestyle choice. Any terror or
violence would be using technology rather than in
protest of technology.
he trend may be more widespread than a
small group of segregationists. Most people will
experience information overload and seek refuge from
time-to-time from their digitally-dominated world. Can
you say "Digital-free Club Med"?
his will be exacerbated by educational
and financial differences that further separate the
haves from the have-nots.
here will always be individuals
disconnected from mainstream society, and some few will
inevitably react violently.
t's always been thus. The proportion
will be small and the terror unsuccessful.
think this is also true - but not just in response to
encroaching technology. A reasonable percentage of
human populations have always had evil intentions - for
all sorts of reasons (religious, political, social,
etc.) - and new technologies will only give them new
tools by which to execute their horrendous
deeds.
es, this happens already, but it would
be a mistake to label such people purely as
"Luddites" or "Refusniks" or assume
that they will commit acts of terror or violence. In
all likelihood, those who don't self-segregate will
have access to much more sophisticated and deadly forms
of terror. It will be a mixed picture, not a divided
class portrait as given here.
bsolutely, we see this taking place
already with Middle Eastern fundamentalist religions
that violently reject the modern world while using
technology invented there to seek its
destruction.
ot any more than normal w/ or w/o
Internet. There have been refuseniks for centuries and
centuries...
s
with John Connor, in "T3." Yes, but acts of
terror will be extremely limited in terms of impact.
Terror on these networks will be more of an act of
inconvenience...like a thunderstorm, than an act of
terror that we see today.
error acts are much more likely to be
facilitated by technology than be the result of an
objection to technology. This being said there will
always be malicious use of technology for its own sake
- technological vandalism, such as spreading
viruses.
lease, they'll be watching cable in
their free time.
f
"terror acts" can be considered as taking
down communications networks, then they will almost
certainly happen. As technology becomes more pervasive
and the "majority" of culture is aware and
adept, the pendulum will swing in the other
direction.
agree with the peaceniks, disagree with the violence.
Those off ICT who act need to organize; to do that
requires social involvement, social capital, etc. That
requires skills associated with high SES, and thus most
likely also with high ICT use. There may come an
economic underclass that may commit violence, but it is
not their ICT refusal that will create this.
ot only terror or violence, but the
human relations aspect of our world may not
exist.
do think we are for a backlash against technology by
some factions of the population who feel
"excluded" … that their income and/or
education level prevents them from accessing technology
and thus not succeeding in life.
hese individuals will be easier to
identify by government agencies and laws- like the
Patriot Act. Although they will be "off the
grid," the collaborations by multiple agencies
will make it more easy to spot them while making it
difficult for them to survive.
agree that some will choose to live off the grid but I
don't see people grouping into tech refuseniks and
committing violence within that group.
ven so, the current percentage of those
choosing to be "left behind" will decrease as
technology is easier to use and the population
ages.
hese terrorists will be splinter groups
something like White Supremacists. The overwhelming
cultural presence will dovetail with technology and all
its tempting offerings.
think they are already out there - just not violent
– yet
here will likely be isolated cases.
Consider the Unabomber, or the stereotypical "gone
postal" displaced worker. However in these cases
the issue is the unbalanced individual, not the
technology. More commonly I would expect to see
individuals, or discrete groups such as Mennonites,
Hutterites, Amish, etc, who have made a conscious
decision to live 'simply' for religious or
cultural reasons and self-segregate, but do not offer
violent protest.
his is quite possible - but not the
intentional left-behinds, also the people that came
under the wheels of the accelerating modernisation
quite possibly will turn to fundamentalism that embrace
terror as an instrument of protest
don't think they will be necessarily Luddites, but
they will understand that the internet has become (by
2020) the lifeblood of communication and commerce for
the global economy. What better way to spread terror
than to destroy what we all rely on so heavily? I think
the refusniks and Luddites will just exist happily
"off the grid" much the same way that some
groups/religions now choose to avoid cars, television
or modern conveniences. They don't (so far anyway)
commit acts of terror because of their choice
don't believe the "refuseniks" are active
enough to get out of their chairs, let alone commit
terrorist actions, or common graffiti. The information
and communications divide is real, and cognitive
(I'm not a fan of the Great Divide theory of
literacy, but this is a serious cognitive shift). I
also link it to the use of psychochemistry in both
young people and adults, but at best it is an
active/passive split. Counterintuitively, this is in
part fueled by Ritalin/Meth, two sides of the same
coin. So long as the drug of choice is
"puppy-uppers," any movement fueled by it is
going to be more active and focused than consumerist
sonambulism. The people being kept on the dull and
passive side of the divide are educated in an
authoritarian mindset, trained to do as they're
told, buy what they're told, push the button and
watch the blinkenlight. I don't expect rebellion or
activism from them at all. Pot smoking, perhaps. I do
predict that there will be off-the-grid activists,
rebels, and a new cultural group somewhat akin to
Gibson's "Lo-teks" in "Johnny
Mnemonic." They will be capable of advanced
analysis of changes in the structure of the system, and
they'll start building enclaves and havens and
systems to protect themselves from oppression inside
the grid, whether in China or the US. I see this sort
of activism springing up from the free-thinking
free-wheeling and pissed off attitude of the
blogosphere. And it will also be better organized.
Refuseniks, if they do try anything, will
fizzle.
ust as technologies cannot in themselves
produce happiness for individuals, cultures, or
societies, so 'terrorists' are likely to use
technologies for whatever ends, not to destroy
technologies as the root cause of inequality or
evil.
agree, in the sense that the statement is vague - there
will always be individuals or groups which will commit
terroristic acts against "the modern world",
but they will always be in the minority. See for
example the broad range of modern environmentalists (or
"eco-friendly") versus the Earth First
"monkey-wrenchers."
doubt there will be many people who actually could live
in the world without some sort of technology - whether
they like it or not. Technology will become too
enmeshed in the simple things we need for living -
food, air, water, shelter, etc.
do agree that some will live off the grid because they
already are at this point in time. I don't think
that extreme "refusniks" will commit acts of
terror, but maybe violence in protest against
technology.
would hope this is not the case. Better that this stay
in SciFi stories.
t
will not be the Luddites that will be able to do this.
It will be the power elite that fear the internet most.
They have the resources to be dangerous.
here will always be some
"some" out there; some who will refuse to
adopt new technologies; some who will hesitate to
recognize technology. But violence will be a very small
part of the resistance.
t
seems unlikely that terror or violence will be in
protest against technology ... I agree some will chose
to be "off the grid" but unlikely they will
want to protest in a violent manner
nstead of Luddites, we have the
fundamentalists who stand strong against any sort of
globalization and loss of identity for themselves. This
is already happening, and I see that this extremism is
going to get worse before it gets better. But they will
use technology to their advantage, not fight against
it.
here have always been such and there
always will be. I'm not aware of evidence
suggesting there will be more of them.
e
already have this cultural group, manifested in several
ways. I see no reason to think that it will become
stronger. How could it? It's pretty strong right
now.
completely agree that there will be generations and
individual groups who are left in the dust of the
technology race, but there are already significant
examples in history of this happening that do NOT
include a cause-effect relationship that includes
violence. Using the Amish as an example, perhaps the
opposite may be more realistic...individuals retreating
"off the grid" as an alternative to the
unpredictable pace and unintended consequences that
"modern" society is sure to face.
f
the refusniks shun technology, they will not be able to
commit acts of terror. Acts of terror require a great
deal of communication and coordination. So, terrorists
will (and already do) exploit the information
technologies to their full potential. Although it is
possible that some people could live "off the
grid" it will become increasingly difficult to
survive in a society without encountering information
technologies.
e
will have to use some of the technology described in
previous statements to minimize the risk of being hit
by these terrorists. I have a feeling more people will
go off the grid than we might expect now.
lways "black" and
"white" in this world as human nature.
'm not sure there are Luddites
today. To commit the acts of violence, they will need
the mobile phone to communicate.
agree that some will live off the grid, but I do not
agree that some will choose to commit acts of terror of
violence.
ouble-barreled question not helpful. I
agree that some people (probably many) will live off
the grid for peace but don't necessarily agree that
this will lead to others committing acts of terror. -
But then acts of terror are committed for all sorts of
reasons and there have been acts of violence against
technology already. I disagree with the statement
because I'm not sure about the formation of a new
culture of refusniks.
e
already have that, but not in the way you think.
Al-Qaeda is a battle against modernity, although they
use modern technology to do it (jet airplanes). The
Republican party, because it is controlled by
fundamentalist Christians (as opposed to al-Qaeda,
fundamentalist Muslims), also wages a war against
modernity, specifically science, and by denying
evolution they deny scientific principles and thus all
of science. Information overload has been a hollow
concern for decades.
hese will be people left behind
by/reacting against lots of modern things, not just
against technology.
ome may live off the grid, and there
will probably be Unabomber-like acts of violence, but
those will be relatively isolated
hose are not the only alternatives.
There are many high tech people who limit the technical
interest of their children. There is a middle
road.
hough am not sure they will call
themselves Luddites. Anti-globalists, pro-God,
nationalists, etc. will be other labels used for
similar sentiments.
he irony of Luddite/Refusnik terror is
that certain technologies are used to protest others.
The technologies that have so faded into the wallpaper
as to be unnoticeable are used to protest those that
have newly arrived on the scene and present unsettling
challenges.
ree access will be the weapon on real
thread.
nclusive programs should minimize that
risk, as happens today (it does mean that it is
impossible to eliminate terrorism but to control its
impact).
his question, to me, treats people who
do not fully embrace online life as part of their
identity as subversive or inferior. This is way too
broad of a characterization of those that do not want
to be a part of the Internet-is-life movement. There
will definitely be self-sufficiency movements that are
seeking to minimize risk in the face of global resource
crises, but please do not lump these people with
terrorists! If you are trying to say, ok, not everyone
will be on board...that is fine. But we don't have
to associate those who are non-conformists with
terrorism.
t
seems more likely that the "terrorists" are
making very effective use of the Internet and other
computer-based technologies.
hese will be very few. On the whole
people do not avoid amenities/networks but do try to
avoid political control/centres. Thus new communities
on the internet, but seperated from political control
will (have) emerged and will continue to emerge. There
will be a continual battle (as ever) between
governments and anarchists. However this will occur
within the technology far more than without.
here always are the opposites.
am sure one in a million (or billion) will do exactly
this, which means "some" will commit the acts
you describe.
suppose there might be some extremely
small and isolated examples. Past history has shown
protests against technology (e.g., automobile) but I
don't see this a anything to be concerned about.
Why even bother to mention it in this survey?
owever these terrorist type acts will
not be limited to Luddites. It is equally possible that
a cyber-hacker or bio-terrorist, not only has access to
the necessary tools, but seeks to set back the forces
of change.
here are always people that wish to live
outside the common society or are opposed to the
society. However, this has nothing to do with the
Internet. E.g. Amish people will not use the Internet,
but that is not because of the Information
overload.
ut down that bong and switch off the
reruns of Star Trek.
on't forget the religious fanatics
of all stripes, which may or may not also be Luddites,
and which are likely to be a much bigger and more
dangerous problem.
es, there are likely to be bad things
happen
o
different than we have seen in recent history - there
will always be a fringe group of persons who will chose
to be different.
his is always true, but how many of
these off the grid people are there really? In any
event, if the other predictions come true, it will be
harder and harder to live off the grid, suggesting that
only the most die hard will attempt and achieve
it.
s
global connectivity continues to improve, wage rates in
the developed nations are likely to plummet. The result
will be a large-scale migration of the retired to the
developing world, and an influx of young educated
workers from the developing world to the developed
world. As the US exports its retired and imports new
engineering blood, the young and uneducated will
increasingly become marginalized, unable to afford
housing or even food. They will band together in
abandoned ghost towns in the mid-west and form
extremist sects.
ery few people leave technology on their
own; it is the social and political structure that
inhibits some from getting close to it under certain
situations.
t's hard to disagree with a
'some' sort of statement - after all we had the
Unabomber, so this is of course a possibility. However,
I doubt we'll see violent acts of protest against
technology. Creative and important ones, perhaps, but
probably not violent.
am not sure that the patronizing term
"refusnik" captures the possible magnitude of
the problem, as the term suggests that non-use of
technology involves a choice. A protest against
non-equal (discriminatory) access to technology is
different from a protest against technology itself.
However, actions due to access inequity may be a bigger
problem than those created by disenchantment.
his is an utterly unhistorical
understanding of the Luddite movement, which was about
ownership textile frames, rather than about rejection
of technology per se. I do expect there to be continued
struggle over the ownership of technology and that some
of that may result in refusal to use technology that
cannot be owned or controlled by those who are impacted
by it. If that technology is being used to exploit
individuals (certainly true for textile frames in the
era of the Luddites), then some violent reaction is
likely.
etting off the net is already there.
This scenario is again a caricature, especially when
pointing to acts of terror against ICT. Up to now the
acts of terror come more from agro-chemistry. It is
also inappropriate to put a negative label upon those
who refuse to embrace the technology/corporate push as
it is. There is an obvious need for a critical
examination of the most suitable ways to use technology
in order to deal with real life issues as seen by the
people, as well as the choices of needed
technologies.
uman beings can't live without
technology. The only issue is how human beings cope
with it. People may have different kind of reactions
but all these are natural and temporarily as technology
is on-going developing.
ankind will always have a darker side to
offer, it will always have some resented groups and
organizations reluctant to any changes and progress. We
had them in the past; we still have them in the
present; we will have them in the future. But the world
will always succeed over these demented minds.
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