Vinton
Cerf -
Vice President and Chief Internet Evangelist
for Google; chairman of the board for ICANN; and
co-designer of the internet's enabling TCP/IP
protocols and the basic architecture of the
internet; founding president of the Internet
Society. While he travels the world regularly in
support of internet projects, his home base
is in Herndon, Virginia,
USA.
The Transcript:
Q: What was your original hope for the
internet at its inception, and what do you
predict/hope the future of the internet will
be? A: Those are not simple, short
questions to answer. They're short questions;
they aren't so simple to answer briefly.
The original work was technological in nature.
The question was, could we actually figure out a
way to connect different kinds of packet-switched
nets using radio and satellite and wire-line
telephone circuits to actually build a
multi-network system in which every computer,
regardless of which network it was on, could
communicate with every other one. The
applications were unspecified. The only point of
the net was to carry data back and forth in these
little packets. That succeeded wildly well, and
I'm very happy with that result.
It was also done on behalf of the American
Defense Department, in aid of using computers for
command and control. That, also, was very
successfully demonstrated in some of the action
taking place. For example, in the Gulf War the
American military made use of internet technology
to do what it needed to do. So, from the purely
engineering point of view, I was happy to see
that the thing that we said we would build
actually did what we said it would do. Any
engineer would like that to happen.
Today's internet is vastly bigger in scope
and in application than anything I anticipated
when we were doing the work 30 years ago.
It's – as you know – heavily in
use by the general public, it's being used in
business and education – there's a long
list.
What's important about it is now it's
reached the point where it's having serious
economic and social impact. The presence of this
meeting, this Internet Governance Forum, is
evidence of that. That's both satisfying and
scary at the same time, because if we get it
wrong, if we don't set good frameworks for
its further evolution, it may go off in a
direction that is less beneficial to all of us
than we would like.
As for the future, it's already showing
itself. Wireless access to the internet with
mobiles and WiFi and WiMax is transforming the
way in which we use it and opportunities we have
for building applications. In the longer term, I
hope we see more and more broadband access to the
net, so people can use applications that today
are hard to do.
For example, if you have a server at home, and
you don’t have very much bandwidth going
outbound – even if you have a lot coming in
– you can't really serve anybody, or
you can't have video conferencing very
effectively. It's ironic when you're
sitting on an asymmetric high-speed connection.
You could receive high-quality video but you
can't send it because you don't have
enough data rate. We will get to the point where
symmetry is not only desired, but – I hope
– supplied.
More critically, we're trying to make the
network much more accommodating for international
use – that is to say for multiple
languages. The web itself and e-mail packages are
now capable of supporting Unicode to allow
virtually any language to be supported, but the
domain-name system needs to be adapted to support
that as well. So we're deep in the midst of
that now.
In the longer term, one of my pet projects at
the Jet Propulsion Laboratory is to design and
deploy an interplanetary extension of the
internet. Some people look at this and say
– you know – Is this a
science-fiction story? The answer is
"No," we have to support space
exploration, because that's the only way
we'll learn about our solar system and we
came from. In order to do that work – to
put all those robotic devices out there, and
eventually people – we need communications
capability that's richer than what we have
now. Today we have point-to-point radio links.
What we want is a full network capability the
same way we have it on the internet today here
for us, really. So we're poised now, in that
project, to have a two-planet internet in
operation between Earth and Mars to support more
landers on the surface of Mars sometime during
2010 to 2020. So, as this century begins to
unfold, we'll see an interplanetary backbone
beginning to form. Of course, to me that's
very exciting.
Q: What kind of impact will this have on
society? A: I think several things
are already very apparent. We're seeing a
transformation of the entertainment and
information industry from a mass medium with a
small number of suppliers going out (with their
content) to a large number of consumers, to all
of us being participants in the production and
sharing of information. So blogging, YouTube,
people uploading videos, of course pervasive
e-mail, and people putting up their own web pages
are all evidence of communities forming in
virtual cyberspace to have conversations that
they never could have before.
The other thing that's interesting about
internet is that it is not a one-way medium. In
fact, it's a group-interaction medium, so
it's not even just simply two-way. We've
never had a flexible medium quite like that
before, and this group phenomenon, where you can
talk to people you don't know yet but you
know they're interested in common things
because you discovered them on the same website,
that's a phenomenon that we've never
really quite had before. It is dramatically
different and new, and it implies a sharing of
information that we couldn't do so easily
before.
It's this phenomenon of information-sharing
which I'm very excited about. Some people say
information is power. I say information-sharing
is power.
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